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TPM Reader JS chimes in ...
I almost wonder if more Dems didn't vote for Hillary to counter the BS media narrative about rejecting the Clintons once and for all. I say this as someone who has given 1500 bucks to Obama, gone to several of his events out here in CA, met him, and plan to vote for him. Part of me, however, was so pissed about this media narrative about Hillary and the Clintons in general that I had in the back of my mind that I would consider voting for her just to piss the media off. That's not going to happen now as it appears we have a real race, but still . . . do you see what I am saying? I mean this whole weekend we see people like Andrea Mitchell and Chris Matthews salivating over how the Democrats "rejected the Clintons" and want to puke. I am for Obama not because I am against Clinton (either one), but because I am for Obama. That's it. I think he is the best of the big 3 dem candidates. Would I be happy to vote for Hillary or Edwards in the general? Hell yeah. Did I think Bill Clinton was a great President? Yes. And I think Hillary would probably be pretty good too. This whole media narrative sickened me.
TPM Reader DB too ...
I have been an Obama supporter since 04, gave money to him this year, own the t-shirt, etc., etc. But the sexist bullsh-t these past days (I am a woman) from the media is making me root for her to win this tonight. The only thing I dread if she wins tonight is the inevitable story from the media that this proves that white america really won't vote for a black man, the resulting made-up defection of Obama's made-up new found black support, etc., etc.
I don't have time to lay this out very well so I will ask for good faith to go back and clarify if something doesn't come out as I mean but...
Yes you defend women and minorities at the ballot box when the choice is between some one who is for basic rights or against those rights. But if you look at Hillary and Obama... they both support the basic priniciples Democrats stand for. But by saying that the only way we beat x is to put y on the Democratic ticket. Ladies and gentlemen I smell a trap...
Concrete example: current question of defending homosexuals basic human rights. I know there are a handfull of very passionate defenders of the basic human rights of homosexuals within the Republican Party. But when it comes to the question of homosexuals basic human rights there is no question that voting Democratic is the only way even consider voting... on that issue a vote at the ballot box directly takes on violation of human rights. But both Clinton and Obama support basic human rights of homosexuals.
Say Obama happened to be gay. Would a vote for Hillary be a vote against Homosexuals? I don't think so! THis isn't a competition between people who support human rights of homosexuals and those who don't. Its a question of two candidates who BOTH support homosexual rights.
Now a smart Conservative operative who didn't support homosexual basic human rights would run into the whole issue helping build an argument within the media with some terms that are known to set off certain bias and emotions for the battle scars of descrimination and having been a victim of wrongs. It sets us off as a community down the wrong path.
What happens is we've all been well tutored on some of the important work coming out of the womens studies movement and the many other cultural studies areas... so then all of a sudden it becomes a free-for-all-mudsling because peoples natural passions for defending their communities comes into play.
This isn't a national election... if it were a question between the conservatives and Democrats. A question of whether the Democrats are representing and upholding certain communities would be a fair question.
Maybe its just me... but I smell a trap
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