Wednesday, March 5, 2008

live blogging S.R. 796

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Richardson is on the floor speaking about his tax proposal. 2:36

...he's talking about this being an opportunity to do something good.

...to let the people of GA vote.

"There is no middle ground"

"We aren't going to vote by section... vote one time and one time only."

2:37

"You let GA say... as a policy decsion. We are not going to tax cars..."

2:38

"329 million tax cut" first year

context


2:40
"We can watch out pennies..." is why we can afford it. Aren't are schools already broke? Isn't peach care already on the rocks?


2:41pm
"We're going to freeze property taxes on 2008 values"

"can go up 2% on residential 3% on nonresidential"

"some certainty on property taxes"

"Cap rate of increase at Governmental inflation rate..."

"using governmental price index..."

"5 year average of that is 5.05%.... in other words will be telling local jurisdiction... you may not increase rev. on property taxes by no more than 5.05% plus growth plus other revenues that come in

"how many of your consitituents get 5% pay increase every year? nobody? so how can you be against it?

"we're going to put a safe gaurd...

"citizens say... they want more services...

"all the people (in that county) that want to increase taxes will vote at county level... if they want to provide some ballfeild... or other service that put it to vote

2:46
"your going to get one chance to do something of trauma care... 10 dollars on each car

"do we trust Georgians enough... to be part of biggest tax cut in GA history...


2:50
Hatefield.... pg 5 of bill line 30 and 31. How will bill effect local property tax freezes... will it superceede those freezes?

Richardson (Rich)... you decide on the local area... provision by local legislative act


2:51
Setzler... true.. pg 6 adval rev. cap just a cap on ad valorum revunue?

Rich: only ad valurm taxes capped at gov. rate
wanted to use consumer price index. But decided Gov. Price Index...
the index already incorrorates unforseen events... also allowing for growth.


Rep Smith 113: how does it effect local controL?

Rich: can imagine more local control?

Rep. Smith: state won't have same rules as local level?

Rich: the sum of the parts exceeds the whole... we've lost touch. State government is reocognized in US constitutions. County,cities, schools... creatures of the state... local officals have exceeded the ability of themselves to pay

2:57

Rep Mills: first year 329 million dollar cut
second 672 million...

3:00
Rep Rich... my own city doesn't collect property taxes... we should learn from them.

Rep. Manning: When will this be on ballot...

Rich: this november 8th

Rich: calls for vote.. isn't it time to do something really good. You mean to tell me you that bunch in Atl gave us the right to vote on paying taxes on cars or not?

Rep Burkaulter: This is an exceptional day in the house of rep. They don't happen very often. This past year a lot have stressed over this discussion. Has been a healthy year. If GA's are watching and hearing whats going on. I think its a good thing.


JIm: I don't... this is a sad day... we have too many needs in this state to to have deficits in 2011!!!


Rep. Burkaulter... Richardsons crusade... is an opportunity to pass on signifigant tax cuts to the people we represent. We have tax relief. Harness the control and growth, harness the unpredicatability of local government spending... eliminates the most onerous tax on the state of GA that is collected on the day of your birth. A tax that 20 other states don't bother to collect. WIll benifit 93% of GA's and their households.

3:07
Rep. Burkaulter : this will eliminate a tax will benift more average ga's than rich ga's more low income Georgians... we don't work on polls... but if you want to look at the polls and they'll rate them for you. But ad val tax on personal vehichile. 87%(?)

Rep. Burk: Luther Colber... everywhere Luther went... he was minority whip. Everywhere he went he carried a copy of the state constitution. He envoked it everywhere he went. He new the importance of it... and importance of when you amend it. Can imagine the those who wrote the constitution in GA. Can't imagine those who wrote or made laws ever intended for your personal vehicle to have government finger prints.

3:13


GBPI: A $672 million hole in the state budget is the equivalent of:
100 percent of the PeachCare budget and 27 percent of the Medicaid budget; or
8 percent of K-12 education; or
29 percent of the Board of Regents budget; or
56 percent of the Department of Corrections budget.

Rep. Burk: some will claim we can't afford this... sure we can... if we want to.

3:15

Rep. ONeil: vote yes as quick as possible... want to talk about intangible aspects
keep hereing the term stability... why government likes the stability than roperty.

No more stable tax than property taxes... yes every level of gov. sees ad val as stable.

Predictability.. yes you have a very predictable revenue flow... to put it in banking terminlogy want 1 dollar put up 100 dollar cd. What about the tax payer? What about its predictable in this state alone of 20% increase? How predictable you think they think ad val. taxes are?

3:20
Rep. ONeil: give Georgians opportunity today to cast your vote on single largest tax cut in history of this state.

3:21
Rep. Roberts : the people are ready for tax reform

3:49
Ringing for vote on bill...

yeas: 110
nos: 62

bill fails to get constitutional majority! Call your Rep. ask them how they voted and thank them for voting no. If they vote yes, let them no about your disapproval.

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